The time of skills and abilities has arrived argues Sipho Ngcobo.
Sipho NgcoboAffirmative Action - what affirmative action?
Its days are numbered. If things go the way they are going, in another four to eight years, it will exist only in name.
But the end is going to begin now, and it is going to start at local government level, with non-service delivery playing a big trigger- role.
So, if affirmative action ends, what happens to black economic empowerment? It also ends. After all, the two are the two sides of the same coin.
And this, is the practical reality of the South African transformation situation. What a pity!
But before you scream at me, let us look at the unsettling events of the past few months as well as the reaction they have triggered from the most unlikely quarters.
Black townships throughout the country have been hit by a violent wave of service delivery protests in the past few months.
Frightening still, is the fact that these protests have resembled the kind of strife that was waged against apartheid. They have taken the exact same form, except they are not anti-apartheid protests. They are a cry for the most basic of services.
And ironically, these widespread violent protest acts, are taking place in African National Congress (ANC) strong-holds, and the underlying cause is the lack of administrative skills to carry out proper governance and the delivery of service where it matters most.
Fact of the matter is, in many of the municipalities, particularly local municipalities services have totally collapsed while the authorities have absolutely no clue what to do about it.
The ANC, as well as government have been aware of this problem all along.
At a press conference this week, ANC Secretary-General Gwede Mantashe was at pains to admit that councillors and administrators at local government have very little experience, adding that 67% of these officials were first time councillors.
"We do not have enough experience at local government level - 67% of councillors are first time councillors, 28% are second-term councillors whilst only 5% are third-term councillors," he said adding that the ANC was going to under-take a wide-ranging audit of municipalities.
Do you know what this means, though?
It simply means that the ANC will identify municipalities where there is no service delivery, remove the "comrades" who are unskilled and non-performing and place these municipalities under curatorship.
Some "comrades" will be sacrificed in favour of the skilled individuals who are performance oriented, irrespective of race. This is because service delivery is the single most important factor that will determine whether or not the ANC still runs the country after the 2014 elections.
Another reason is that the 2011 local government elections are around the corner, therefore work must start now - the cleaning must start now.
This is very urgent and there is a lot at stake.
So, it is going to be each according to their skills and abilities and not each according to ideological affiliation. Experience and skills right? Where do most of the skills reside?
Most of the skills reside with white males. Of course, this is a product of history, and not black people. But because of history, whites, particularly Afrikaaners are highly experienced at local government administration. They were deliberately trained and empowered for many years. So, it follows that they could be called on board to save these municipalities. This would not be because the ANC were happy about it.
Of all the liberation movements on the African continent, and most probably the globe, the ANC is known for its pragmatism. It has its many faults, but sees the big picture more than any other organisation I have ever known. Because of its pragmatism, it is able to compromise.
That is why affirmative action will be compromised in favour of service delivery at local government level. If it happens at local government level, what would stop it happening in the private sector?
Affirmative Action is dead. Long live AA.
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Realistic I think this is a very realistic view of the situation. Use the skills in this country to build it and get rid of the baggage of AA. The generation entering the job market has nothing to do with Apartheid. To say the truth, the generation who ran . .more by Dan on July 24 2009, 08:14 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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I hope you're right but I think you're wrong It's high time race was left out of the equation completely. We will never escape our racially polarised past while race is entrenched in policy. But I don't see this happening Sipho. Incidentally, I don't see why you're surprised . .more by Jamo on July 24 2009, 08:18 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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There is no one left. I would argue that there are very few whites who would be willing to take up that challenge , they are either retired ,dead or sitting it out for pension in the private sector from which they will not budge. These skills can only come from the . .more by salohza on July 24 2009, 08:27 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Agreed Dan is right, very pragmatic. BUT then again wasn't that what (white) people were saying all along... I mean do you really have to put your hand into the fire before you will believe someone who warns you that you are going to burn?? You can't . .more by audit geek on July 24 2009, 08:33 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Sipho sees some light, but still half-blind. Sipho. We all know the ANC and their placements in strategic posts like local Municipalities are only there for the short-term. They have (had) a 5-year outllook in which they had only 1 goal - self enrichment. By the time 2011 elections come . .more by George on July 24 2009, 08:36 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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RSA inc... lets take a step back... look from way above and wonder..If I was CEO of this country ..do i ask.... what are the departments that need help? (ie who 's not performing) what are their internal problems? how do I formalise solution? . .more by Super Duper on July 24 2009, 08:37 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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A bit too late I am afraid. To untangle this mess will take years. That is exactly what happens when people get appointed on race instead of skill by Piet on July 24 2009, 08:38 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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I may be optimistic to believe the ANC racist actions are dead The way the country will rid itself of racism is is to consign the ANC to history. Until then, this contest of the national good versus racist thinking/action will continue. The white community trashed the Nationalists old and new. The Balck . .more by Free the Rest on July 24 2009, 08:40 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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It's taken 15 years of Greed; AA; BEE; Cronyism; Corruption; Incompetence.... and more to destroy SA. And now that's it's broken you want to do away with Affirmative Action. Give me a break you clowns. by Poen on July 24 2009, 08:40 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Long Live AA you are kidding yourselves. the ANC cannot exist without either AA or BEE - these are the only tools that they have to enrich themselves. God forbid that they actually would, you know, study long hours, work many hard years building experience and . .more by Eugenic on July 24 2009, 08:48 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Well done Excellent article. At last we have sanity prevailing!! by Impressed on July 24 2009, 08:56 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Eish, this man is "dof" You are really totally dof if you think the likes of Sicheka and his mates who started their careers with hardly any suitable qualifications for the senior posts to which they were appointed at the Gauteng Provincial Government in the '90s' will . .more by Compadre on July 24 2009, 09:10 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Municipalities Until you institute productivity output measures and a process to improve such productivity you will live with the same inept situation. The level of knowledge, skills, customer interaction, demonstrated by these workers is deplorable. There bosses . .more by What a chop on July 24 2009, 09:28 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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you can plan a plan and talk the talk but unfortunately implemtion of your plan takes hard work.There is no easy way to become successful without hard work.That is the real world by james on July 24 2009, 09:33 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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SARS I wonder how AA and BEE compliant SARS is. Can someone get this information? That is the one gov department that still works, I just wonder if it is because it is not in the hands of Comrades... by Piet on July 24 2009, 09:37 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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The only difference between ... The ANC and most Dutchmen is their skin colour. Their values appear to be similar: nepotism, tribalism, corruption and arrogance ? Let us not forget that the Nationalist Party sold out to the ANC - and that KORTBROEK was rewarded with that . .more by De La Rey on July 24 2009, 09:37 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Patty Hearst effect.. Beware of taking up the cause of the kidnappers - they don't need or respect your support. by Netshitenzhe on July 24 2009, 09:38 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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isn't it just phuqueing amazing Like the dim-witted numbskulls who have populated the troughs of ANC cronyism over the last 14 years and who have managed to break every darn thing they touch.... we now have a "PLAN" Why, oh why, evry time these nuggety ones stuff up . .more by Plutarch on July 24 2009, 09:38 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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No Way! There is no way that the ANC will scrap AA, formally or informally. It would be admitting they were wrong in their approach and certainly in the detailed application of their ideas. Also, a huge amount of their support comes from people who . .more by Al on July 24 2009, 09:43 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Affirmative Action is alive and well I mentored a young black professional for ten years and his reasons for joining a BEE company was because the white owned company could not match the BEE offer a company who was a "preferred bidder" that is usually anywhere between third and fifth . .more by Mike on July 24 2009, 09:47 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Ja dit en daai "Jy skuld my iets" Todat daar nie van kindsbeen af geleer word, mens rape nie vroumense nie, mens steel nie goed nie, mens in die goverment dien die mense nie jou eie sak nie, is daar boggerol wat gaan reg loop !! by Piet on July 24 2009, 10:08 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Ja en daai "jy skuld my iets houding" Todat daar nie van kindsbeen af geleer word, mens rape nie vroumense nie, mens steel nie goed nie, mens in die goverment dien die mense nie jou eie sak nie, is daar boggerol wat gaan reg loop !! by Piet on July 24 2009, 10:10 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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TO ALL WHAT YOUR ARTICLE SERVES TO DO IS TO MAKE SOME OF THESE RACISTS SODS FEEL VINDICATED. FACT IS THE SERVICE DELIVERY FAILURE IS HISTORICAL DATING BACK TO NATIONALISTS RULE. WHAT HAS CHANGED IS THAT THE GREED AND INCOMPETENCE OF THE ANC COMRADES . .more by CHENEYBUSH on July 24 2009, 10:27 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Nonsense - Cronyism is dead - Affirmative Action will remain This is actually the best news for Affirmative Action. The focus will move from people with connections to black people developing skills and therefore becoming empowered. No more "amatender" as a quick way to wealth. That is all. You . .more by ThaboM on July 24 2009, 10:28 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Point Lost After a wave of critisim by racist bloggers Sipho finally gave in,the fact is affirmative action is not the problem but jobs for pals and nepotism is.There are a lot of qualified blacks who are being pushed around by white companies and without . .more by The patriot on July 24 2009, 11:13 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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AA Just for the record, Tanzania has a faster growing economy than we. A vibrant tourism sector growing at near 8% p.a. Stable government, stable banking, relatively crime free. There is hope somewhere out there. I lived there recently for 3 plus years . .more by John Coleman on July 24 2009, 11:20 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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AA dead When last have I seen so much logic in one article. Keep up the good work Sipho. by HB on July 24 2009, 11:25 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Affirmative Action is dead, long live affirmative action The original idea of affirmative action (e.g. in the Sullivan Code) was to train, mentor and provided financial, educational and emotive support to deserving under-class candidates in order to empower and equip them to compete on level playing . .more by Theseus on July 24 2009, 11:26 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Blame game I think a certain amount of resposibility has to fall on the shoulders of the general public as well. Why is it that these people in the townships resort to violence and disruption at the mere hint of something not going their . .more by JR on July 24 2009, 11:28 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Completely wrong Sipho your thinking is very shallow,maybe you want to please all the racists on this blog and your employers cause your stories have been roundly crictisiedd before,ask yourself why almost "everyone" is on your side today.The fact is todays . .more by The Clever Sipho on July 24 2009, 11:29 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Probably true, but... The fact is, in corporate SA, they would rather employ whites than blacks, regardless of experience or skill levels. While I agree generally with the article, the sad will be that in 20 years, black people will be nowhere in the corporates, even if . .more by Joe on July 24 2009, 11:34 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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african way change what works... inevitably breaks and is looted...fixing is a a "process" that addresses the problem with taxpayers money, which is looted again, this time by new appointees, repeat. VIVA gravy train and the white cow by youngun on July 24 2009, 11:39 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Affirmative Action is dead Finally.Someone has found the light switch.Only when there is no discrimination can you help others around you.If you are one of the "hated white males" you cannot : (1) Train others irrespective of colour, as AA EE BEE ratings will come and bite . .more by Can only help UNemployed if I am EMployed - Hello Anyone home? on July 24 2009, 11:46 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Redeployment caused AA to fail Sipho, failure of AA is a doing of the ANC. Since when can a nurse be a technical manager for a municpal technical division and be responsible for civil engineering and town planning delivery. This happened when there were black engineers and town . .more by t on July 24 2009, 12:10 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Another 4 to 8 years? That's way too long - it should have been halted 5 years ago already. By continuing it we are doing more harm than good. Those with the years of experience and knowledge that needed to be passed down to the new arrivals were kicked out long ago for . .more by Sad Days on July 24 2009, 12:18 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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BS!!! "But because of history, whites, particularly Afrikaaners are highly experienced at local government administration. They were deliberately trained and empowered for many years." Load of BS! You don't need to be a rocket scientist to . .more by c4 on July 24 2009, 12:19 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Affirmative Action is dead Replacing white people with black people is not AA. Appointing qualified black people at levels that match their skills and enabling them to grow over a period of time is AA. The problem with municipalities lies in jobs for pals and cronysim and . .more by Sibonelo on July 24 2009, 12:42 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Apartheid vs AA Apartheid is not dead yet. But it is better that AA be dead brother Sipho. by Newton 2 on July 24 2009, 12:44 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Irresponsible article from a "journalist" There are always points of view on strategy and implementation, the affirmative action strategy was in and of itself sound. To redress the imbalance caused by years of oppression was a necessity, as in business, bad tactics can affect a good . .more by Siviwe or Kenneth whichever you prefer on July 24 2009, 12:45 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Clever Sipho You really must be blind if you believe the City of Joburg is together and advancing. Drive around the city and see the potholes, non working trafffic and street lights, unkept parks and recreational spaces, lazy JMPD candid camera jockeys, lazy and . .more by What a chop on July 24 2009, 13:00 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Atlas Shrugged Let's hope they can find the people to help. by Beancounter on July 24 2009, 13:11 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Blacks and Whites have no hassle with each other But the ........ing politians love winding us all up and making everyone insecure. The media is no better and articles like this do the same thing. 99% of people don't care who or what so long as its done. The only ones who keep on about all this . .more by Senhor on July 24 2009, 13:24 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Nonsense The problem has got nothing with a shortage of qualifications, experience or fundse. SARS raked in Zillions for the Government. How difficult can it be to run these minicipalities? The problem is work ethic, integrity and morality. From experience, . .more by AP on July 24 2009, 13:25 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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NOT SO CLEVER SIPHO It is not that the smaller municipalities do not have the money. They spend it on million rand vehicles and parties that is why there is no money left for service delivery. Look at the Great Kei and Sannieshof municipalities. The ratepayers are now . .more by SP on July 24 2009, 14:04 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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@SENHOR For once I have to agree with Senhor... by SP on July 24 2009, 14:06 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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I just got employed in a BEE company and I'm white. They know that they need the best man for the job, so they gave it to me. It was encouraging to know that AA and BEE are dying a slow death. by Will on July 24 2009, 14:23 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Where does this arrogance come from? Competency, hard work and skills are not the exclusive preserve of whites. It angers me when it being suggested that: backs = lazy, unskilled, etc and whites = competent, hard workers, etc! This is probably why, even if South Africans knew . .more by MJay on July 24 2009, 14:29 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Could it actually be? Sipho, Have the ANC actually woken up and smelt the roses? AA, BEE or whatever you wanna call it, does not work and is in fact reverse discrimination! Are you/ANC only now seeing that all BEE run companies and their BEE appointments are a . .more by Expat on July 24 2009, 15:47 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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AA becomes self defeating Black people are given jobs they are not ready to do because of AA. They then proceed to do a bad job because they are not ready for that job. So people then associate black workers with incompetence. And unfortunately, even the capable black people . .more by Sad Days on July 24 2009, 16:04 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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@Piet I, Piet, hereby state that I only wrote the first comment above. The other comments were written by another Piet. Please dont confuse us, we are not the same individual. Thanks. by Piet on July 24 2009, 16:26 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Sipho wake up : whities still have job reservation in major public corporations and by the employme... Carry out this test : put out 2 CV's : 1 . one with a white name and one with a blk name. by Nawdir Khan on July 24 2009, 17:19 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Protest, Shmotest - The masses will still vote them in next time It really does'nt matter what any of us say or do at this juncture - the voting sheep will return the ANC to power at the next elections or they will "withhold their vote - fat lot of good that does by Len on July 24 2009, 17:50 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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The One-eyed king Sipho, my brother ever heard the story of the king in land of the blind? You sound naive Dude. AA has established the one-eyed kings and their kingdoms in SA. So how will the blind see again? The sad thing is that the mainstream people are born . .more by Bullie Beef on July 24 2009, 17:52 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Ag, my arme ou Sipho-kie,-... Bottom line.... whites are:- 1. Responsible 2.Civilized 3 Take decisions. 4.Intelligent. 5.Moral 6.Have values Thats why it works when they are in charge. I rest my case. by Voortrekker on July 24 2009, 18:00 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Long live AA!! Doing away with AA just benefit the lazy whities. Read this very interesting article: www.moneyweb.co.za/mw/view/mw/en/page306448?oid=307607&sn=2009%20Detail&pid=287226 by Badabing on July 24 2009, 19:44 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Sorry to burst you bubble WILL .... You got the job at the BEE company not becuase you are the best man for the job, but because it is becoming politically correct to have a token white man in BEE companies. It lends credibilty to the past 15 years of rape and pillage. Sort of like . .more by De La Rey on July 24 2009, 19:48 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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AA Gwede Manthse talks cr@p when he brings in the excuse of experience. People being employed in government mostly meet the political criteria, they have no idea of the job. I see it first hand. As for elected Councillors, their voters need to catch . .more by DR on July 24 2009, 21:28 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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@MJ You say "If whites are so competent, entrepreneurial, etc, why is SA not internationally competetive? Why aren't they using their mighty skills to pull this country out of the quagmire it is in?" MJ whites actually put this country on the global . .more by Audit geek on July 25 2009, 11:54 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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like SASOL, Anglo, De Beers, BATS etc, all founded by whites And paid for by cheap black labour. Talking of the first heart transplant, I can recall reading that Dr Barnard's gardener used to assist in operations. It also seems that Europe and North America are being colonized by . .more by Gardener on July 25 2009, 21:05 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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AA - Africa's Lemming Pragmatics will know that the ANC are facing a Gordian knot. AA will never work, yet their voting base will rather strangle themselves than call for its abolishment. The ol' myth of "raise any colour baby in a typical middle-class . .more by ProudlyWhite on July 26 2009, 07:05 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Emerging Market Economies all face this Hi Sipho Thanks for the great article. My response here: http://www.connectioneconomy.com/2009/07/27/affirmitive-action-is-dead-in-south-africa-or-is-it/ Barrie by Barrie Bramley on July 26 2009, 10:29 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Sipho, you are wrong Affirmative action is about to begin, private sector organisation have sought to discredit it and avoided its implementation. Now it will be imposed on them! by MrReality on July 26 2009, 13:48 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Malema's comment "Nationalise Local Government!!" Not really, but you wouldn't be surprised if he said it, would you? by Junes on July 26 2009, 18:13 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Lot of truth Sipho but not simple as that. Deal with truth, AA and BEE were very good policies that could have developed this country and undid some apartheid damage. Piet your view on race appointment is foolish and self contradictory. Whites were appointed on race not competency. The truth . .more by Gambu on July 26 2009, 20:58 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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The Dodo It is truly "Meritocracy or bust" ! by HogInSa on July 26 2009, 22:10 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Self-inflicted Myopia Your taking off your glasses has really shortened a lot more than your physical sight. Having worked for a multinational made up of professionals (not journalists) and observed the institutionalised baas-brigade, I can tell you that racism is not . .more by Phreebie on July 27 2009, 08:03 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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I guess everyone is allowed a do-over but it is not like anyone didn't see this coming... maybe we should just drop the race issue ? permanently ? Newton: 'because for every action ...' by Brotha from anotha motha on July 27 2009, 10:16 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Self-inflicted Myopia Many black,qualified professionals were overlooked ahead of their white peers, right and are straight out of college these black,qualified professionals . This is what we are talking about first obtain the experience before you shout racism from the . .more by oupies on July 27 2009, 10:31 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Missing the point The wave of protest is a cry for help to our leaders, this partly reflect long waiting for live hood development and to the large extent has been exacerbated by ongoing global recession. This has nothing to do with BEE or affirmative action; . .more by Tsunami on July 27 2009, 11:10 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Sipho, you are a dissapointing black person Sipho Ngcobo, it is really dissapointing to see a black person writing a column like this. You are missing the point completely. Don't confuse BEE, which is BBBEE with affirmative action. You have a white person's mentality approach to BEE which is . .more by Oliver on July 27 2009, 11:44 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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True words, people want service delivery So let's try and build a non racial S A. Judging by these comments we have some way to go. by ea on July 27 2009, 12:51 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Government Approach Sipho, I must disagree with you. What you can expect is for the municipality to contract in white Afrikaans workers because of the "lack of capacity" (current buzzword) But of course these workers must be sub-contracted to a BEE prime . .more by Dude on July 27 2009, 13:22 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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@Gardener Yes Barnard's gardener did assist him in mowing the lawn. That's about it!!! You will probably now argue that the first man on the moon was black. His name is Moonto. African's colonise the West, because they are runnign away from their Sh#thole . .more by Pleassse on July 27 2009, 15:03 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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My experience... I am well qualified, experienced and commited to making a contribution in South Africa. For the past 14 years I have witnessed the gross enrichment, at my expense, of an ANC Elite in the name of affirmative action. They prostituted the . .more by Willing White Man on July 27 2009, 18:55 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Sipho u r right but see what is cooking on the horizon They will NEVER admit that they can not govern so u see on the horizon is ZIMBABWE by jack07 on July 27 2009, 21:46 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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@AA I work for a company that is all white. only the cleaners are black. We don't offer our services to government generally, however, when the office of the premier of a certain province did come begging, there was no question of our BEE status...just . .more by Super Duper on July 28 2009, 08:25 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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WRITING ON THE WALL Its taken this long to figure out that AA is not working - it never did. Don't complain about companies only employing whites there merely employ the best. It seems that where ever BEE has taken place the organisation ends up closing due to . .more by C--- on July 28 2009, 11:31 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Verloor AA en ek kom terug Ek woon in die buiteland, veilig en gelukkig. My broer het besluit om in SA te bly. Hy sukkel 2 jaar om werk te kry ondanks goeie kwalifikasies en ondervinding. Hy is die "beste kandidaat op die lys" maar benodig "board approval" om aangestel te . .more by E on July 28 2009, 13:19 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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AA Sipho, you are a disappointment ! A real sell-out ! AA has yet to begin. Maybe you're one of those BEE fatcats who do not know the plight of their own people. Do you think 15 years can correct 350 years of oppression, murder, deprivation, and . .more by Carlos on July 28 2009, 15:41 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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It is not AA but comradeship Only if we were placing senior management at the Municipalities by Skills and not comradeship we would serve our people and pay for those skills as well because what keeps me in a private sector is the Net salary. by VincentK on July 28 2009, 16:58 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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AA IS DEAD Couldn't give a phuking S*** with , BEE, BEEE , BBBEEE , AA whatever phuking thing the useless phuking black people come up with . I closed my company after 20 years , got fed up of this C*** from the phuking blacks that do not create jobs but . .more by Dilligaf on July 28 2009, 23:30 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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@ Carlos You are a stupid person , 350 years ago whites came with ships and guns , you phuking A** wipe phuking anything that ran that you could catch on 2 legs . So please dont come with the 350 years bullshit , the whites taught you to read and . .more by Dilligaf on July 28 2009, 23:49 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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super duper Super duper , you admit you work for a all white company and brag how good the company is , then you say stop moaning whiteys get of your arses and raise the bar . AA is meaningless to your company . That tells me you are BEE, BEEE , AA , . .more by Dilligaf on July 29 2009, 00:38 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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@Carlos Go and learn your history buddy because you obviously have not heard about Chaka who 200 years ago was responsible for displacing blacks in South Africa as far as Zimbabwe. I suggest you read the book Path of Blood BY Peter Becker. by Mike on July 29 2009, 11:16 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |