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Financial富不过三代 (fu bu guo san dai) Literally: Wealth does not pass three generationsMeaning: It's rare the wealth of a family can last for three generations (the 2nd may see the value of hard work, the 3rd, forget it). Mark Seymour*14 November 2008 11:23
It's difficult enough for a family to accumulate wealth in the first place. If however, the above Chinese proverb is indeed true, we suspect that in order for the family to remain wealthy past the third generation mark will require a robust investment plan which would include the characteristics of discipline, patience and probably a bit of luck too. 1. Her grandparents did a fantastic job of consistently placing 10% of their monthly income into an equity investment over a 45 year period. 2. As they had generated sufficient capital to live off the dividend income therefrom, her grandparents had stuck with their equity investment throughout their retirement. 3. Unfortunately, her parents had failed to adopt a savings ethic and they hadrelied optimistically on their inheritances to generate their own retirement income. 4. The 3rd generation children (herself included) failed to comprehend the importance of generating an income and as a result were unable to adopt a savings plan or meet their own costs. Time to start again.
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Royal Families do a pretty good of it through the generations. Must be because of their real estate holdings. Strange how real estate was not discussed as an appropriate asset class in the article, or maybe not strange if you believe in vested interests. by Casino Royale on November 14 2008, 11:46 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Get Real Of course this assumes that SARS does not impliment new taxes to take it all away long before!! The above example does not take personal tax, interest tax, dividend tax, capital gains tax, inheritance tax, estate duty tax etc etc etc into account! by 1st generation not likely to pass anything on. on November 14 2008, 12:03 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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3rd generation wealth...in s.a Do not forget the following families:- 1) Openheimer family.......more than 3 generations 2) Ackerman ...................just about there 3) Rembrendt..................just about the 3rd generating Very interesting . .more by Vincent Nkhatho on November 14 2008, 12:12 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Good article by Logan on November 14 2008, 13:54 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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3rd generation wealth Was achieved because apartheid reserved this right for whites Prevoiusly disadvantaged were excluded (viz africans,coloured,indians,chinese) Now we have black apartheid were other previously disadvataged people are . .more by mjs on November 14 2008, 13:55 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Spill the Beans... I'm very stupid and ignorant. How did one invest in the ALSI in 1960. Did you buy an index fund? Did you buy proportionally of each stock in the index? If you bought individual stocks, which ones could you buy that time and which ones did . .more by Freemarketman on November 14 2008, 14:01 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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unrealistic salary the principles may be correct but your R300 salary for a mere mortal in 1960 is i think way over the top which will impact on the figures. i started work in 1978 as a graduate teacher and earned pre tax 440 rand per month!! by johann on November 14 2008, 15:27 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Misuse This usually specifies the family business which is run by family members and especialy a warning for those later generations who don't want to work but enjoy and waste the wealth. by Chinese on November 14 2008, 17:25 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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True My father used to quote the saying: The master and his sevant change places every three generations by Colin on November 15 2008, 17:53 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Harvard business school . . . published research showing that family business often collapses after the third generation. They made the general observation that the first generation build up the business, the second generation maintains and the third generation runs it aground. . .more by The Saint on November 17 2008, 07:47 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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@ Colin Eish -I have just taken Philemon a nice cold drink whilst he mows the lawn :) by A.Ryan on November 17 2008, 13:13 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Good Article Maybe the majority of you clever trevors should read the article again. It does not state all third generation familys spend the money nor is there any colour related to generations. Maybe you should read the book the millionaire next . .more by R Soles on November 17 2008, 18:46 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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Middlestand business What is saving Germany at the moment iare exactly these kind of businesses which are well managed and stay in the family. Big business has dabbled in all kinds of markets and now are in big trouble. So it is not so that wealth is wasted, except if . .more by Foreigner on November 18 2008, 08:46 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |
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mjs comment Off the mark, 50 yrs later with no apartheid in Africa it has mostly destroyed what their was,get the chip off your shoulder by PIE IN THE SKY on November 18 2008, 08:58 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it |