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Gill Marcus: Sober up South Africa

There’s trouble ahead, but South Africans are doing the ostrich act.

Felicity Duncan
21 November 2008 00:19

Despite a distinct and unusual lack of fear mongering from South African media and economists, the world is going to be a very scary, difficult place in 2009, and South Africans need to understand this and deal with it, according to Absa's non-executive chair Gill Marcus.

Marcus, speaking at the Gordon Institute of Business Science last night, said that South Africans, by virtue our banking system's virtual immunity to rotten subprime assets (see Should South Africans really not panic?), have been sheltered from the international financial storm, and have therefore not realised just how serious the situation is.

Marcus was speaking as a member of a panel of academics, economists, and politicians, who gathered at GIBS to look ahead into 2009 and make predictions about what the year will hold.

Black days

Marcus quoted some sobering facts and figures, indicating just how serious the world's problems are, and how gloomy 2009 may be.

"International deflation is becoming a problem. Japan has slid back into deflation, after escaping it for a while. The whole Euro-zone is in recession. The latest estimates from the United States are that their GDP will experience -4% growth for the first two quarters next year."

She continued, "Twelve trillion dollars of household wealth has been wiped out with this crash in the US, which is equal to almost their whole GDP [of $13,13tn]. By next year, one in ten American households will be in foreclosure."

A series of online implode-o-metres in the US have tracked the number of collapses in the mortgage lending business (304), the banking industry (19 this year), hedge funds (95), and home building companies (53). According to Fitch Ratings, so far $296,7bn worth of American corporate bonds have been affected by ratings downgrades. Morgan Stanley has announced it plans to cut 10% of its workforce, Goldman Sachs has followed suit, and Citigroup announced that it would cut 52000 jobs.

And Marcus pointed out that the problems aren't confined to the US.

The International Monetary Fund, which has around $200bn in assets, is facing demands for bailouts from half a dozen countries, bailouts that it can't really afford. So far this year, the IMF has given Iceland $2,5bn, Pakistan $7,6bn, Ukraine $16,5bn, Hungary $25bn, a total of $51,6bn. And the fund is in talks with many other countries, including Latvia and Turkey - which is looking for anything from $20 to $40bn in bailout money.

Given these crushing facts, it's likely that global GDP growth will be walloped next year. The hoped-for decoupling of emerging markets (a hope that they are no longer dependent on developed countries' markets for their growth) has failed to materialise. China has been forced to announce a $600bn stimulus plan to help the country stave off disaster, but it's still anticipated that 100 000 firms will close down this year, leading to millions of job losses.

In short, it's a ghastly mess.

The crucial point that Marcus drove home is that South Africa is not immune to the effects of this crisis. As a predominantly resources-exporting economy, South Africa's growth is strongly tied to growth in other regions and an Asian and world slowdown will hurt us.

In the last few weeks, South Africa has seen several major retrenchment exercises. Lonmin has cut 1000 contract jobs, with a further 1620 under threat; Uranium One will cut 2600 jobs at its soon-to-be-closed Dominion mine. And the financial services sector, despite not facing any subprime-related asset write downs, is also shedding staff. Today, Investec announced that it would be cutting jobs among its 600 staff, while Absa has been cutting jobs for some time.

For Marcus, the current crisis is a one-in-a-hundred-year disaster in the proportions of the Great Depression, and it demands skillful, visionary leaders to lead humanity through it, leaders who are currently in very short supply.

But there are reasons for South Africans not to despair.

Silver lining

In addition to Marcus, the GIBS panel consisted of economist Dr Azar Jammine, former DA MP Raenette Taljaard, academic and former UCT vice-chancellor Dr Mamphela Ramphele, and special advisor to the Gauteng premier Mduduzi Mbada, and they were generally more upbeat.

Jammine said that, while GDP growth is set to slow markedly in 2009, it will still be positive.

"There are four reasons why I think that South Africa will weather the downturn better than others," he said. "First, we, uniquely among the world, have the promise of the economic boost that the 2010 Fifa World Cup will give us. Second, the current batch of wage negotiations will probably result in a number of double-digit increases, which will come in at a time when inflation is set to drop like a stone. This will mean a lot more consumer purchasing power."

"Third, the rand has fallen out of bed. Although that will probably mean less interest rate and inflation relief than many hoped for, it has created enormous opportunities for manufacturers [and exporters], and it will benefit many sectors. Finally, our financial system has been immune to the direct fallout of the subprime crisis."

Of course, the economic picture is made more uncertain by the current political issues in South Africa. The emergence of a new opposition party, COPE, which includes a number of former ANC cadres, has injected a new uncertainty into South African politics.

As Taljaard said, there have been big shifts and changes in the political landscape, and they will have long-term implications.

"Perhaps the most interesting possibility is that of provincial coalition governments. Depending on whose statistics you read - all the parties have been doing their own surveys and have their own findings - there will be between four and five provinces in which it is very possible that a non-ANC coalition government will be voted in."

"This is a very interesting scenario. According to the laws of the country, provincial governments can pass their own constitutions, so there could be some very significant developments."

However, despite these shifts and changes, it's still virtually certain that we will soon be inaugurating Jacob Zuma as South Africa's third post-1994 president. What will a Zuma presidency look like? Perhaps less alarming than many expect.

"We in the ANC have a tradition of electing a leader who can be the face of a campaign," said Mbada. While Zuma is the public face of the ANC, the party's priorities - stability, economic growth and poverty reduction - will be unchanged.


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With the countries leader reduced to a figure in a marketing campaign, what does it mean?
It means we are going to be governed by a faceless committee. The camel, they say was designed by a committee. If it is true that Zuma is RSA's favourite ( ahem, the non human ANC construct really), then we can expect the same ineffectual . .more

by Free the Rest on November 21 2008, 06:36
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Market forces
Yes, we are insulated from market forces.
From our banking to our political system, everything is manipulated, controlled, centrally planned (mis-planned? Think Escom).

While ANC cronies crow that we are insulated from the global . .more

by Theseus on November 21 2008, 07:17
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What's holding SA back
I work for a company that is engaged in resource development in Africa (SA and beyone). We were recently fortunate enough to attract a non-South African with an extremely rare skills-set who had worked for us abroad and was now willing to relocate . .more

by Sobered up on November 21 2008, 07:27
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TREV!
Perhaps Gill would be good enough to get Trevor Manuel to read this article so that he might be persuaded to retract his head from the sand!

by OBS on November 21 2008, 07:28
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Ex Government employee talks sence outside Goverment circles
In general a very good article and definately a warning to the investors out there.Congratulations on telling the truth.
Question:Where were this wisdom while serving the ANC government?

by Trader on November 21 2008, 07:32
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I also want some of that....
Marcus - our banking system is virtually immune to rotten subprime assets - excl. of course the R120 bn BEE mining deals that are now nearly all under water, some of which will become unserviceable and the repossession of cars and houses that have . .more

by KKK on November 21 2008, 07:48
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and the wage negotiations
Will increase inflation, simply taking the part of a high oil price in pushing company costs up. Generally, companies spend more on wages than petrol.

by Richard on November 21 2008, 08:18
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Some very good comments above.
At last some recognition that SA is not part of the global economy, shielding companies and individuals participation through exchange control restrictions also limits the growth potential. The exchange rate of Rand is completely . .more

by . on November 21 2008, 08:18
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People are weird
I find it amusing how a one party majority has always been labelled as bad.

Now we have a split which may eliminate this majority and we are politically unstable?

It must be some deep gene in 95% of the population to somehow be . .more

by Wayne on November 21 2008, 08:59
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Zuma will be 4th President
Strictly speaking, Zuma will be 4th post-1994. Great article non-the-less...

by Voltron on November 21 2008, 09:10
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Stom pot
Citibank plans to shed 52 000 jobs! Thats like Joburg closing down. 100 000 companies in China. Liewe ouers!

The Big Question is: will those responsible fire themselves or wangle the international rescue packages so as to extricate . .more

by Brompot on November 21 2008, 09:42
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Sober up Gill?
With zuma, malema, threats of machine guns, kill threats, zuma dancing about the stages, zuma singing that racist divisive barbaric song, the anc supporting mugabe, the anc being totally intolerant of opposition of any kind, zuma saying the anc will . .more

by Wake Up on November 21 2008, 09:52
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He IS the third pres
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by Zuma, Mbeki, Mandela = 3 presidents? Who's Missing Voltron? on November 21 2008, 10:10
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The current Pres you idiod

by Stewel on November 21 2008, 10:31
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Maybe the current one!

by on November 21 2008, 10:35
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SAVE CASH NOW COZ U'LL NEED IT NEXT YEAR
We are all going to feel pain next year. Many of us working in the private sector will loose our jobs. Some people do not realise how serious this is economic slowdown is.

Ensure you have a solid emergency cash fund. We may need it. This . .more

by stockwatcher on November 21 2008, 10:46
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by test on November 21 2008, 12:03
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To stockwatcher
I agree with you 100%

by Simon on November 21 2008, 12:47
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President??
They all look the same to me. --Who IS the current pres.

by confused on November 21 2008, 14:22
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Bhwa haaaa! The parties priorities
"We in the ANC have a tradition of electing a leader who can be the face of a campaign," said Mbada. While Zuma is the public face of the ANC, the party's priorities - stability, economic growth and poverty reduction - will be . .more

by JWi on November 21 2008, 18:38
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Love the way Moneyweb delete posts they feel are "unpopular" att Felicity /Alec
. It seems obvious that Moneyweb have decided to steer debate in the direction they prefer by deleting any comment they find unpalatable. I'm not talking about obscene or defamatory commentary here but rather strongly worded contrary points of view. . .more

by Schnorrah on November 21 2008, 21:06
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Never mind ABSA what about Citi? Or CS? Or UBS?
http://crookedtimber.org/2008/11/21/end-of-the-beginning/

Some of the comments are corkers.

by . on November 21 2008, 21:14
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Dear Auntyy Gill
A spell at that capitalist institute has sure changed you. Have you bought some Jimmy Choo shoes with your fees: ten years ago you would haves said that the dear party would have provided. Ah yes...how things change...as for those delicious snacks . .more

by SAM on November 21 2008, 21:19
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This is almost as bad as beetroot and Aids. Are we immune or virtually immune
Marcus, speaking at the Gordon Institute of Business Science last night, said that South Africans, by virtue our banking system's virtual immunity to rotten subprime assets (see Should South Africans really not panic?), have been sheltered from the . .more

by Piet Pompies on November 21 2008, 22:26
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toxic symbiosis of fools
Over the past 10 years, business leaders, economists, academics and politicians have conspired to create a monster which is the process of devouring the global economy. Gill Marcus is flirting around the edges of provoking collective mea culpa but . .more

by anton kleinschmidt on November 22 2008, 06:54
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Re: Schnorrah
I see that you are using a different name this time around.

I found your usage of that term offensive, just as many Afrikaners found the usage of that other term by Luke Watson offensive. Language like that has no place on a web site . .more

by Mike on November 22 2008, 11:57
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Re Oi Vey Mike cry me a river
I really did not think that in this day and age that term would offend anyone -you sound like a bit of a prude. In your reply you attack my opinion as well as some of my language -my language might be construed as coming from the gutter by some . .more

by Schnorrah on November 22 2008, 12:49
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anc
Do i look like i give a puk = Dilligaf .

that is black SA rule , doent give a puk .

too incompetent to do the job because they are black withh BEEE , BBBEEE AA etc .

Anc the dilligaf party .

by Dilligaf on November 22 2008, 18:49
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xsgg
hgdx cgtr

by bz on November 22 2008, 20:45
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Y*A*W*N
A bit behind the curve this bunch, aren't they?

Something like Trevor Manuel, who had to go to G20 to learn what the situation is!

What a palooka, but Mboweni still takes the cake with his fiddling with a personal photographer . .more

by Munch on November 23 2008, 15:47
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Sober Up South Africa
At last a matter that needs public debate has been approached in a sober manner. yes indeed South Africans need need to sober up. This drunken stupor cuts accross all age groups, population groups ,gender groups and through different social classes. . .more

by Boombang on December 04 2008, 20:09
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A very serious situation
SA banking assets ARE rotten. If a person has a bond at 80%LTV then with property values falling we have a BIG problem: development deals, cars, credit cards etc are sub prime!

by SAM on January 02 2009, 12:04
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2010 soccerfest
Everyone keeps saying what an economic boom this will cause.

I have yet to see an audited business plan on the event, explaining the financial benefits, and a cost/benefit comparison between Govt spending on non essential show off . .more

by Andy on January 02 2009, 13:44
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2010 soccer to save SA........??????
That's if...and a big if, the projected numbers do arrive. 2010 is not that far off, and this whole economic crush could not have come at a worse time. People will have just started getting back on their feet, settling outstanding debts, . .more

by lionel on January 02 2009, 17:19
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2010
will we make 2010 work and will it generate the monies , i hope so but i feel the numbers will be down and this is only short term money for a very long term issue. We need to export resources but no one money to buy what we selling so whats the . .more

by doug on January 05 2009, 08:45
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