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Amazon halts shipping to South Africa

Alleged fraud shuts down cheap shipping options.

Shipping Amazon products to South Africa just became a whole lot more expensive.

According to the most recent shipping guidelines on Amazon.com South Africa is now the only country in Africa not able to receive standard or expedited shipping.

The only option now for South African residents is to receive the goods via priority courier shipping, which is prohibitively costly. The shipping costs on a DVD, for example, would amount to more than R400.

Justin Drennan of Wantitall.co.za, a locally-based online retailer, says that “widespread fraud and theft” has forced Amazon.com to stop sending shipment to South Africa through the SA Post Office.

“Things are a bit sketchy right now, however it seems that due to fraud they have removed the option for a ‘standard’ shipping rate to South Africa, meaning you will need to ship with DHL priority services.

“SA is the only African country that cannot choose either of the cheaper options anymore, and the only other country that cannot choose the cheapest ‘standard’ delivery is Nigeria,” says Drennan.

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What an effup! We can NO LONGER trust any state sponsored institution, they all have sticky fingers in the till. Jail is too good a place for those rubbish human beings.

I was able to buy cheap dvds at the back of my local post office. Now I must hang around the back of DHL.

Now I know where my stuff is going to. Will need to drive past the back door of the main PO , and see if I can buy my new DVD’s back from them.

Whether it is Post Office workers or SAA baggage handlers,cheating, theft,fraud and corruption is our number 1 skill.One day soon there will be nothing left to steal which should be interesting from afar, in a schadenfreude kind of way.

Tried to buy Dvd’s on Sunday and was told that they were not available when i tried to check out – now i know why….

Silly of Amazon they will loose out on a lot of purchases……….

we’ve beaten Nigeria at its own game. Mind you, the signs have been there for a long time. Is there anything that South Africans can’t corrupt more thoroughly than anyone else can? Is there anything these scumbags won’t sink to? I despair of this God-forsaken crime-ridden simian-governed hell-hole.

Oh my word, that comment made me laugh!

This is truly, truly shameful and embarrasing!! Not to say incredibly inconvenient – Amazon US and UK service is top,top notch. How do I explain this to my US and UK colleagues. This finally convinces me we are on the slippery slope. Impact among business in these major countries should not be underestimated – but nothing will happen. Absolutely no accountabilty!!! Truly shameful!!

You can all the DVD’s amazon sells on South African websites and it gets delivered through the post office. Amazon sends their goods in package that screams their names on it. Why cant they just send it in plain wrapping.

I order dvd’s from local and UK websites and have always had the goods delivered.

The only “shock” about this is that people are shocked when they read it!

mwahahaha

This has been going on for jonks now – South Africa is the land of SCAMS – everything from the boardroom BBBEE games right down to traffic cops – GTFO now, while you still have a chance – sell your property while you still can – ICKPO is buying!

What a absolutely astonishing solution- why didn’t I think of it!! Get probably the most successful eCommerce Company in the world to re-package stuff sent to SA so it won’t get stolen!!!! Also , no way can you get all the DVD’s or other stuff Amazon sell from SA sites.

Zim has trailblazed this route long before. WHahaha

Your comment beggars belief. Don’t forget to renew your ANCYL membership.

While like many others I’ve lost amazon packages to those charmers in the SAPO/customs, the role of amazon’s South African customers in this mess shouldn’t be ignored. Amazon always replaces lost consignments at no cost to the customer; a fair number of people have therefore developed a nifty two-for-one strategy: get your goodies, then report the package missing; wait for the chumps at amazon to fill out your Christmas shopping list for free. Except, of course, the amazon boys are *not* chumps; they’ve been nice about tghis for years, but reality bites hard.

Well done guys – well done Justin, Wantitall gets self promotion. That’s your business guys, an add on to Amazon bringing in stuff for Amazon – so why not drop an article in MW.
Do you guys pay for this, or should MW just call them what they are – Advertorials.
Btw – jfyi we can’t be” the only” African country if we are in the same league with Nigeria – terrible journalism.

Fo r all of you still living in SA-make plans ane emmigrate.The world is a big place with plenty amazing countries.SA is a waste of time!!!!!!!

This from elsewhere in the media:

The clampdown will benefit Wantitall, a local website that thrives on Amazon’s wariness. Wantitall collates orders for all type of goods and orders them from Amazon, but has them delivered to a warehouse in the US. They are then repacked and sent in bulk via courier to SA.

Amazon’s action is bad for consumers but good news for Wantitall, said its founder Justin Drennan. “Because of the fraud, they have stopped shipping via the standard postal service. Everything is being stolen at the Post Office,” he said.

i JUST LOVE THIS FORUM. WE CAN ALL VENT OUR BAGS. WHAT A WAY TO START EACH DAY. THE COMMENTS ARE SOMETIMES VERY FUNNY. YIPPPEEEE.

IN SA WE HAVE WIT OES, PEKKIE OES, BRUIN OES, SLAM OES AND CHAR OES. WHAT A MIX. I WOULDNT LEAVE IF YOU PAID ME. OH YES AND THEN THERE ARE THE BOERE AND THE HOTNOTS..

IF THE EXPROPRIATION BILL IS PASSED I’LL BURN MY PORSIE BEFORE THEY CAN TAKE IT THOUGH. EVER WONDERED WHAT RONNIE KASRILS REMINDS YOU OF. HERES A MULTIPLE CHOICE :

1. YASSIR ARAFAT
2. A V*****
3. A CHORRIE
4. ALL OF THE ABOVE

A while ago my son got parcel that had been opened and some items removed.

A poor show indeed !

Spoke to a DHL driver who picks up at ORT. Says we can talk.

Back in business

is that they enforce the rules on importers where the good old SAPO dont. So…if your parcel’s value comes to more than $100 (I think) then they have to have an importers code. And unfortunately they include the shipping in their calculations because SARS is too dumb to think in Customs. To get an importers code is a bit of a nightmare since I think you have to have a VAT number first. To get a VAT number in itself these days is a nightmare.

This is upsetting and sucks! thieves everywhere. Is SA ever going to get better in anything.

It’s a strategy by Tito to save the Rand.

@Dave: No, for an individual to register for an importer customer client no. you don’t require a VAT no. Still a pain though.

This is a very sad state of affairs- whats next?

USE A COMPANY CALLED THE COURIER GUY,REALLY GUYS THEY ARE GREAT I USE THEM ALL THE TIME

I have lost several items shipped from Amazon and all have been replaced or been reimbursed. I am not suprised at their decision as it must have cost them a fortune! THere used to be a time, when you could rely on the Post Office to deliver your mail quickly, efficiently and inexpensively. It is so unfortunate that mismangement has resulted in another of our state institutions service levels declining.

UK cop tackles baggage theft at OR Tambo

Baggage-looters at OR Tambo International Airport are the target of a new crack team headed by a former New Scotland Yard detective to stamp out widespread pilfering.

The Airports Company of SA (Acsa) will foot the R5,4-million annual bill for the team – known as the “baggage protection unit” – which was put into place two weeks ago.

National carrier SAA reported a 40 percent increase of thefts in the 2006/07 financial year and paid out R19,5m in compensation to passengers – R15m in the first eight months of this year. “SAA is responsible for reimbursing passengers, but the airline is not responsible in the sense that we or our staff caused the loss,” said spokesperson Robyn Chalmers

Does this also apply to Amazon in the UK?

Media adding to the C*** like usual.

Everytime I have ordered from Amazon

my stuff gets lost in Germany. So much

for Amazon accussing SA. I think you guys

should order stuff before passing uneducated

comments like usual!!!

Just ordered a item from the UK to SA and they still offer the cheap postal options, The problem is between Amazon and the US POSTAL service as Amazon does not have a contract with SAPO to deliver. The buck stops with USP even if SAPO have problems.

I live in the UK and send stuff weekly to SA including Amazon items, in 8 years not one item has every gone missing. I have a feeling that a certain company that sells Amazon stuff in SA is trying to make money out of this.

We need a private sector solution. Why not use Postnet?

A day after US online retail giant Amazon announced that it was no longer offering South African customers standard postal delivery due to massive theft by SA Post Office employees, the post office has announced that it will sell cut-price books, DVDs and CDs direct to the public outside the back door of its branches nationwide.

More: http://www.hayibo.com/articles/view/802

.co.jp did this last year March >_>
Amazon should allow cheaper shipping at “one’s own risk” then, at least…

GREAT IDEA – a system which operates in reverse to Postnet’s intnl mailbag…they distribute stuff all over SA anyway, why not just add the Amazon packages at a nominal fee, say R25?

I had a mini camera card stolen out of an INSURED package sent from Joburg to Cape Town by the Post Office recently.

Now I pay the extra for courier. Will not use the Post Office again.

By the way I hear it takes some 8 months to receive an insurance payout!

I placed an order with Amazon UK with courier delivery because I wanted the item for my daughters birthday. It came via UPS couriers. They charged an additional R200 service fee above the charge levied by Amazon. Because it arrived on a Thursday it could not clear customs until Monday because I only sent through the receipt on Thursday afternoon. I received it the following Tuesday, two days after my daughters birthday. Amazon had promised it on the Thursday. Couriers also suck.

Just like their comrades at OR Tambo. Skelems!!!!!!

I,ve spent around 10 000 Dollars on amazon in the past 5 years and never had a single parcel go missing using normal shipping rates.

This is a giant C*** up,people claiming lost parcels when they arnt,ruining it for all honest buyers.

Also unfair of amazon .com to loyal sa customers,at least give the standard shipping option with a disclaimer.

Theft also ruining it for honest folks.

Do something about the rampant corruption and theft, because it is going cost you, the customer and the business establishment thousands of dollars to acquire goods and services. Tough penalties for corruption and theft should be instituted at the national level in SA. Godsped!

What can you and I do to correct the problem between Amazon and SAPO?

I have shopped with Amazon for over six years and all my goods always arrived no problem. I shop from other sites and have used USPS which then delivers to SA Post office and no problems.

But the problem is South Africans think nothing of ordering something online and then making a charge back. Stealing is stealing but many middle class South Africans do not see it that way and its disgusting! I had an online business that I eventually had to close down because my own countrymen were constantly trying to pull fast ones! Good on Amazon I say!

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