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Dogecoin’s creator is baffled by meteoric rise to $9bn

Markus takes to the Dogecoin subreddit forum to clear up his involvement, or lack thereof, in the project.
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Imagine you’re the founder of a multibillion-dollar enterprise. Got a big house? Check. Vacation on an exclusive Caribbean island? Keep the drinks coming. Fast cars? Yeah, got to have those.

How about a used Honda Civic instead?

That’s what Billy Markus, the software engineer who created Dogecoin, the cryptocurrency based on the meme of a smiling Shiba Inu, bought when he cashed in his chips in 2015 after growing weary of harassment from the crypto community’s zealots. Unlike Bitcoin, there is no limit to the amount of Dogecoin that can be created in the so-called mining of the coin.

Now that Dogecoin has reached an unfathomable market capitalisation of $9.1 billion — about as much as Dropbox Inc. or Under Armour Inc. — on the back of a dizzying 1 400% year-to-date Reddit-fueled rally from half a penny to seven cents, Markus just wishes people would realize he’s no longer part of the project and can’t limit the coin’s supply to help make them rich.

Markus took to the Dogecoin subreddit forum Monday to clear up his involvement, or lack thereof, in the project.

“I’m no longer part of the Dogecoin project, I left around 2015 as the community started to strongly shift from one that I was comfortable with,” Markus wrote in an open letter. “I don’t currently own any Dogecoin except what has been tipped to me recently, I gave away and/or sold all the crypto I had back in 2015 after being laid off and scared about my dwindling savings at the time, for about enough in total to buy a used Honda Civic.”

Markus, 38, who now works as a software engineer for an education company in the San Francisco Bay Area, told Bloomberg Wednesday that Dogecoin and the mania it’s spawned is surreal to witness considering he and fellow co-founder Jackson Palmer created the token as a joke.

“I see this random crap on the internet saying I have all this money. That’s cool, but where is it?” said Markus. “I’m a normal working person. I’m not in trouble or anything, but I’m not rich.”

That he hasn’t participated in the craze that has engulfed his creation has left Markus in a unique position to assess what exactly it is that’s going on. Which isn’t to say that he can explain it either.

“I’m half detached, but it’s weird that something I made in a few hours is now part of internet culture,” said Markus. “It’s amusing to see Elon Musk talk about it. It feels silly, but there’s this huge upwelling behind it.”

Musk has repeatedly tweeted support — perhaps in jest, perhaps part of his cultivating an image as a real-life James Bond villain — for the coin. The Tesla Inc. chief executive officer’s tweet on Wednesday informed his followers that he bought some of the coin for his young son so that he can be a “toddler hodler.”

How and why the cryptocurrency has run so far, so fast is a mystery even to Markus. The frenzy, the tweets of support from the world’s richest person, none of it makes sense to Dogecoin’s creator.

“Maybe it’s that Dogecoin can be a good barometer for how far from reality things can get,” said Markus.

Lindy effect

But for all the silliness surrounding Dogecoin’s rise — owners of the coin banded together to sponsor a Nascar entrant back in 2014 — and the head-scratching attempts to explain it, one rationale stands out: The Lindy effect, a phenomenon popularised in the works of Nassim Nicholas Taleb.


The Lindy effect is a rule of thumb that says the remaining lifespan for a non-perishable item, like say how long a book will remain in print, is equal to how long it has been in existence. The idea boils down to this: the older something is, the more likely it is to continue to survive the tests of time.

Dogecoin was created in 2013, making it downright elderly in crypto-terms. According to the Lindy effect, its more than seven years of survival, with much of that coming through the so-called crypto-winter when prices plunged in 2018, is a sign of resilience and evidence that it’s more than just a fad.

Mania or not, Markus is happy with the good that has come from the Dogecoin community. In addition to the Nascar sponsorship, individual owners raised funds for the Jamaican bobsled team to attend the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia, and helped reimburse those who lost money in a 2013 Christmas day wallet hack.

“If this is my contribution to the world, it’d be nice to offset all the burning of fossil fuel used to mine the currency,” he said about Dogecoin enthusiasts’ philanthropic efforts.

As for his own personal finances, Markus stays clear of get rich quick schemes, opting for a far more vanilla strategy.

“I’m pretty risk averse, I just put everything in an S&P 500 Index fund or Wealthfront,” said Markus.

© 2021 Bloomberg


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If this is not a tulip, I don’t know what is.

When the only reason that there is demand for something is that there is demand for something, when the price only rises because the price has been rising, it will not end well.

We saw this when people paid a million rand for a gemsbok just because it had a ginger strain of hair in it. That gemsbok is worth three thousand rand today, which is the value of the biltong you can get from it.

If this is not a tulip, I don’t know what is.

When there is only demand for something because there is demand for something, when the price rises only because the price has been rising, it will not end well.

We saw this when people paid a million rand for a gemsbok just beciae it had a ginger strain of hair. That same gemsbok is now worth three thousand rand, which is roughly the value of the biltong one could get from it

The story in this article is the exact reason I will not invest in “unregulated anonymous” cryptos. Any of them including bitcoin. Speculative trading yes, investing long term a solid NO. Some guy makes a coin as a joke using an open source algorithm freely available, and when the world has excess free cash such as the current environment we find ourselves in, add some media hype, and suddenly a piece of algorithm is worth billions. Literally anyone can launch a currency, “store of wealth” etc from their garages. Once governments go mainstream with their own crypto rands, dollars, euro,etc, these homegrown coins with no backing of any kind are dead. The world may be printing fiat blindly, but at least there are tangible economies, armies, etc backing them. Who or what backs bitcoin when government central banks start banning their use due to fear of debasing government control over the monetary system? Or when hackers steal coins en masse? Or when some clever chap finds a way to manipulate the blockchain system and suddenly dump millions of bitcoins, ETH’ dodgecoins etc? Who are these “whales” hoarding coins and what happens when they dump them? Which monetary or police system will and can be used to investigate these scenarios and limit the fallout. I agree with Charlie Mungers assessment….”its trading turds”…

if this crypto currency has a ‘market cap’ of $9 billion, what is the market cap of the US Dollar currency? Would it be the sum total of all dollar denominated assets – including gold and bitcoin and crypto currencies?

Asking for a friend …


You can tell your ‘friend’ the Federal Reserve can print unlimited helicopter money called the USD, so it’s market cap is in effect unlimited.

Until of course this whole fiat scam implodes under its own weight eventually.

You see, the USD is propped up by a 24/7 printing machine, self initiated wars to fund the Military Industrial Complex, and the petro $ which all kept it on life support long after the plug should have been pulled.

Possibly now all explaining the rise of BTC/GLD etc as the smart money slowly starts jumping the sinking fiat ship while the USD goes into controlled demolition ?

” … what is the market cap of the US Dollar currency?” It’s infinite until it isn’t. Refer the Reichsmark when in November 1923, the US dollar was worth 4,210,500,000,000 German marks.

Some advice from a friend … 😉

So this message is for the naysayers. You have been saying the same thing since bitcoin was $100, then it reached $10000 and you were on repeat (going to crash) then at $20 000, the same thing. Then $40 000 and you are still on repeat while us crypto lovers have been printing money while you are still enjoying your bank shares at 1% growth YOY.


True….but please don’t conflate Doge with BTC



Correct, i should have clarified

The confusion of mixing crappy Dogecoin with irrefutable Bitcoin is going to trigger all the crypto naysayers here who DO NOT understand the difference between the two.

Same as confusing Steinhoff shares with Apple.

But most don’t have the critical thinking skills to tell the difference.

Surely that should be Dodgy Coin? … Just wondering ….

End of comments.





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