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The revolt of the ratepayers

The revolution is happening at local level, and it’s only just getting started.
Potholes in Maritzburg have reportedly gone unrepaired for years, and companies willing to do their own repairs are prevented by law from doing so. Image: Shutterstock

Rates and tax revolts are either underway or being contemplated by ratepayer associations fed up at being forced to pay rates and taxes to dysfunctional municipalities.

They are called ‘tax diversions’ rather than revolts, and they’re of questionable legality, but several ratepayer associations are willing to test the law. Others are planning court actions to allow residents to take over the delivery of municipal services, as recently happened in Kgetlengrivier in North West Province.

Read: North West residents take matters into their own hands, and get court’s blessing

The UAG or Umdoni Action Group (based in Scottburgh, KwaZulu-Natal) was established in 2015 to protect the interests of ratepayers, tenants and residents of the area, and has opted for ‘tax diversion’ to hold the local municipality accountable. The ratepayers’ complaints are familiar ones: “Broken roads and stormwater systems, crumbling basic infrastructure, decrepit CBD, very few working street lights, overgrown verges and parks. The list is almost endless,” states the group’s website.

The UAG launched a rates diversion policy in May 2020 after years of attempting to engage with the local municipality to resolve their complaints without success. To get involved, ratepayers have to fill in a ‘Declaration of Dispute’ form which the UAG emails monthly on behalf of all participants to the municipal manager. The rates and taxes that would normally be paid to the municipality are retained in ratepayers’ own accounts.

Ultimatum

“Should our complaints not be resolved within a reasonable period, we will impose on Umdoni Municipality an ultimatum, in which we will reserve the right to effect repairs using the diverted funds and our own labour, contractors and material,” says the group’s call to action.

UAG’s initiative appears to have borne some fruit. During a recent Zoom meeting, the newly-appointed CFO at the municipality undertook to “craft a plan” to resolve the rates diversion impasse.

However, UAG remains resolute that no retained rates will be released until repairs actually take place and services resume.

Geoff Smailes, a founding member of UAG, says several hundred residents have signed up for the tax diversion campaign so far, but to have any real clout, it needs all residents on board.

It’s a small beginning, but campaigns like this are being contemplated across the country.

Withholding taxes

This is not the first time ratepayers have voted by withholding payment to dysfunctional municipalities. In 2009, 30 ratepayer associations withheld rates and taxes and many more declared disputes with their municipalities for non-delivery of services and other issues.

“On the face of it, withholding rates and taxes is unlawful, and declaring a dispute doesn’t legitimise withholding taxes, but it does defer it, as it effectively puts the disputed amount on hold until the matter is resolved,” says Tim Tyrell, project manager at Organisation Undoing Tax Abuse (Outa). “It is also unlawful for local governments to charge taxes and fail to deliver services for which they are charging.”

A dispute is only legitimate if the person declaring the dispute is a legal persona, such as the ratepayer.

“This is why it’s very important to properly constitute and register any community organisation, especially one that seeks to go the rates/taxes diversion route,” adds Tyrell.

Moneyweb this week reported on the court-ordered takeover by residents of water and sewage services in Kgetleng in North West province, after the municipality was found to have breached its constitutional obligation to provide these basic services. Local residents got together and raised money and expertise to get the sewage and water plants – which had been abandoned by municipal workers – up and running in about a week.

Dissolution of municipality

In January 2020, history was made when the Makhanda High Court in Grahamstown ordered the dissolution of the Makana Local Municipality and an administrator be appointed to run its affairs.

The court action was brought by the Unemployed People’s Movement as frustration grew over the municipality’s failure to provide basic services, such as garbage collection and clean water.

The decision was appealed by the Eastern Cape government and the Makana Municipality, but the appeal was rejected by the court.

Another area where a tax diversion campaign is being considered is Pietermaritzburg, falling under the Msunduzi Municipality. Ratings Afrika’s Municipal Financial Sustainability Index (MFSI) survey ranks municipalities on six measures of financial sustainability: operating performance, liquidity management, debt governance, budget practices, affordability and infrastructure development. Municipalities are then given a score out of 100. As shown in the table below, Msunduzi scores a miserable 31. Umdoni is somewhat better at 51.

Source: Ratings Afrika

Melanie Veness of the Pietermaritzburg Chamber of Business says businesses are fleeing the area because of inconsistent electricity supply, potholed roads and a near total breakdown of basic service delivery. “This is the second time in 10 years the Msunduzi Municipality has been under administration, and not a single portfolio within the municipality is well run.”

Factional rivalry

Complicating matters in the local government are factional rivalries in the ruling ANC. Ratepayers are expected to pay for services while a huge percentage of the prepaid meters in the area are illegally bypassed.

Veness says there are roughly 40 000 electricity meters in the area, but only 11 000 are being billed.

Criminal “entrepreneurs” have been able to run electricity cables to poorer arrears and charge R150 a month for connections. None of this goes to the municipality. Potholes have gone unrepaired for years, and companies willing to do their own repairs are prevented by law from doing so. Unless something drastic is done, more companies will leave the area, adds Veness.

Anthony Waldhausen, chair of ratepayers umbrella body Msunduzi Association of Residents, Ratepayers and Civics (Marrc), says the group is consulting with lawyers over an appropriate course of action to ensure ratepayers are given the services they are paying for. Marrc has been emboldened by the recent victory of ratepayers in Kgetlengrivier in North West province, who were allowed by the court to take over the provision of services.

“A lot of residents in this area are talking of a rates and taxes boycott, but we are discouraging that as we are looking for more effective ways of getting the basic services we are paying for. One possibility we are looking at is to ask the court to follow the Kgetlengrivier court case in North West and allow us to take over service delivery in this area.

“We’ve made numerous attempts to resolve our concerns by meeting with the mayor and municipal manager, but these have not borne fruit.

“We now have to look at more urgent ways of solving the problems we face.”

Politically connected but unqualified

Like many other municipalities around the country, Msunduzi is rife with cadre deployments. Unqualified people with the right political connections are being appointed to senior positions.

“There are many good and competent people in the municipality, but their hands are tied. Their budgets are redirected elsewhere by their seniors and there is little they can do.”

Ratepayers across the country are fed up with being told to suck it up while local municipalities are being run into the ground by comrades with neither the expertise nor the willingness to do their jobs.

The issue of rates and taxes boycotts will not go away.

“We don’t encourage boycotts but we do endorse the various types of civic indignation we are now seeing. If enough people break the law, the law becomes moot,” says Tyrrell.

“What are local governments going to do? In many cases, there has already been a collapse of services.”

Outa says it is rolling out a number of campaigns to improve communication between residents and local government, including a mobile-based app to report faults and potholes to the right people in municipalities, and then track the progress in addressing these issues.

Another Outa campaign plans to focus on building capacity at local level to form ratepayer associations and become effective in holding municipalities to account.

Listen to Nompu Siziba’s interview with Ineke Prinsloo from Consulta (or read the transcript here):

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The social compact in SA is just so broken all due to ANC corruption and mismanagement.

Mashaba and Musimane proved corruption and ineptitude crosses over all party lines.
Nigeria and Drc independent fr 60 yrs , sorry to say worst is still to come kêrels

It is heading that way, its a culture thing sadly and their pride gets in the way.

Please, you cannot compare the two; well maybe you can – give us the numbers ANC vs DA “corruption” costs?

The ANC “cities” now are so hollowed out and packed with corrupt AA appointed cadres they are SA taxi like skodonks. CT with its influx on non payers is close behind, simply on economic reality.

There is so much corruption….they can’t keep track anymore!

There’s no difference between ANC run Municipalities and an ANC run Government

They’re all from the same cloth

Perhaps we can do the same with our taxes and start by withholding salaries to useless caders and spend it on service delivery

They need to get rid of Mayors and streamline the wage bill

Corruption is so rife it’s actually out of control and what is Cyril et al doing about it?

NOTHING!

Such is the sorry state of our once beautiful Country, thanks to the ANC and their supporters.
Unfortunately we are all the losers with a rates boycott. Port Alfred / Grahamstown are classic examples.

Next municipal election can be as early as 4th August 2021 but before the 1st November 2021.

Will the voters change their loyalty?

Time the opposition parties stop whining (especially DA and EFF) and do something meaningful for the voters in the area (with projects such as gift of the givers) . No use for opposition parties to talk and talk and say how ANC has failed them; but offer something concrete.

EFF not an option – worse version of the ANC.

So the D A must use those limited funds it has to fight elections ( and remember the cANCer has funds from corruption)and to hopefully win support, for welfare projects which are, firstly, the Governments responsibility and, secondly ,charitable organizations? Can you not see that the cANCer would welcome that, firstly, because they would be able to electioneer better and secondly, the D A would be doing their work for them at their expense. Illogical to me. I suggest you get involved with the D A and find out that they don’t just “whin” but do plenty for the voters by mobilizing supporters and using local business to support them. Stop whining and get your hands dirty.

Do you think it’s possible to have elections this year? They’ll probably be delayed.

Never. I have asked this question to countless “ordinary people” and they all told me the same thing… They would rather the country collapses under their own people than hand power pack to “Whites”

Plain and simple.

absolutely…who else would they vote for? Like expecting a VF+ supporter to vote for the ANC.

It is a pity that the blacks always see it as a white or black thing. I would vote for any party as long as they deliver.

Wait for the ANC politicians coming up with the idea to postpone the elections until 2024 so that they coincide with the national elections. Effectively another 3 years to loot. I am sure that the excuse that will be given is that the Covid-19 has prevented meaningful campaigning

@Honda, that is a scary thought!

Maybe what you have suggested is what we need, A Non Campaigning Election where all advertising is banned, people would have nothing else other the current service delivery quality to value their votes on.

Proudly brought to you by the ANC.

Victor Khanye Municipality (Delmaas) is in similar straits. No water for 2 years as they plunder Rand Water coffers to pay ESKOM.

Tried to settle directly with Rand Water but prevented by law.

Another failed ANC municipality.

I am afraid that this article misses the key issue , namely the utter indifference of the average South African. Election after election they returned the incompetent and thieving ANC to power in substantially free elections. If one is that stupid and masochistic one must accept the consequences of ones actions.

And this will apply to any rates or tax boycott. Educated South Africans ie those that have not yet fled the failed state, are divided, fearful and in a minority and will simply pay these criminals until they bankrupt themselves.

Flee the place if you can afford to i.e. have money, skills and /or youth.

Immigration has long been touted as the answer to all our problems as minority South Africans. In my day to day work I have spoken to many people at different levels in social hierarchy before and after they moved overseas to places like Australia, New Zealand and the UK. Moving overseas is not a magic bullet and a lot of people, approximately 30%, end up coming back to South Africa. People that were struggling to get by here have the same problems overseas.

I agree with you that moving from ones home country is very difficult. The loss of family, friends, culture and modus operandi makes it difficult and many do return. But given the trajectory of this ANC controlled country my view-were I young-would be to leave.

If I had young kids the decision would be to expedite the move. Meanwhile I am old, going to the club now for a drink or three with the chaps, and doing what many South Africans do-look away and deny!

Ah but revisit those numbers in 5 or 10 years. Then look at Zim.

I do not know where you get your numbers from, for people who have EMIGRATED. Anybody with young children who can emigrate and does not, cannot read the writing on the wall which is in metres high neon letters. Past behaviour is the best indicator of future behaviour. In South Africa we can only expect more theft, more corruption, more oppression, more joblessness and more starving people. History teaches that.

Wynandlw,agreed, it is tough, I’ve done it and commute somewhat, but with options now that I never had before. But I disagree completely with the 30 % you are stating, out of the 50 or so couples/ families that I know in Aussie, perhaps 3 at the most have come back, and probably not permanently!!

I am to old to leave but if I was younger and had kids I would be gone in a heartbeat. My reasoning would be given BEE and the deterioration of education and the economy where will my kids get an education that allows them to compete elsewhere in the world and how will they find employment or earn a living in SA. I am thinking 5 to 10years down the track when these kids become young adults.

Re: the voters – not necessarily ‘stupid and masochistic’ but well brainwashed with unending rhetoric consistently repeated (a lie told often enough .. ). In addition to that, the majority are held over a barrel by the grant system (votes purchased with taxpayer contributions). Also in many cases the tribal authority systems force them to toe the line. Then there is the patronage network which keeps ‘influencers’ and their followers on board. Time for direct representation is perhaps overdue? But I tend to agree with your conclusion about bankruptcy. We are too far gone.

Voting is not the alpha and omega of a democracy…you also need parallel structures that will be more accountable to the populace than devious politicians.
OUTA gave us confidence to ignite e-tolls, TAC fought for access to drugs for HIV patients, Black Sash assists the the indigent with SASSA grants, etc.
Let’s give OUTA a chance & resources to deal with dysfunctional munipalities.

What really changed for the majority? Before they had no freedom of movement and were poor. Now they have freedom of movement, a grant and are poor. So it’s probably a better outcome. It’s only for the middle class and up (which is far less than 50% of the country) that are having a deterioration of standards. Since we’re less than 50% and have no power, we emigrate.

How are you going to convince people to change the system when all they’ve ever known is poverty with a bit of state grants?

Perfectly put.

The solution to fixing the local authorities is simple and cost effective:

Make the city and town counsellor positions honorary again, without payment, as it was before 94.

You attract a better class of counsellor, with more life and business experience, that put the interests of the community first.

The idea is good but I fear, inter alia, there’s a drastic shortage of persons of a ‘better class’ who would have the motivation to try tackle such a challenge. In any case none of the ruling turkeys would ever vote for Xmas. Unless we witness ‘the return of Jesus’ of course.

This is so true !!!!!!!!!

It all sounds so good to divert rates and taxes to trust accounts or non profit accounts to be administered and paid to the relevant municipality when they complete or agree to do the work.

Real life experience: NB

1) A certain Municipality agreed to do the work, all the t’s crossed and i’s dotted. they were advanced the money and used it for salaries. Legal route followed and it was just ignored.
2) What happens when the people running the trust/bank account have had enough, as they will someday because working with a municipality will kill you and they know it. Meetings are always late,(CR) minutes get changed, people don’t arrive and empty promises are just ignored. Massive memory lapses take place and because of your hue you will be ignored.
3) Municipality feels nothing, your account will have interest and arrears amounts added monthly till it is impossible to sort out.
4) You will never get a rates clearance certificate so properties cannot be sold.
5) When your rate payer’s chairman someday gets to see the MM or Mayor they laugh him out of the room as he is not in good standing with them.

The one solution is to pay your rates into your own savings account, never touch it, never miss a payment, never miss an increase every, July and the day that you sell or decide to pay them you may have just enough to cover the account.

In the meantime just hope that at the next municipal elections another bunch of useless corrupt councilors get elected. what invariably happens is that an IT company will approach the CFO with a bribe and a new accounting program which will not talk to the old one, and after installation all the records will get lost. This has happened at numerous municipalities.

Rididing this country of racist BEE policies and employing the right people for the job rather than on the colour of their skin is the first step in the right direction. In my opinion.

Everything that is on display at the Zondo Commission, plus the bankrupt SOEs and the failing municipalities are the logical consequences when a society abandons the market mechanism in favour of socialist policies.

We should judge political systems on what they actually deliver, and not on the basis of what they promise. We cannot compare actual capitalism with theoretical socialism. Socialism leads to the deindustrialisation of the economy, a rising unemployment rate, a growing informal sector and a shrinking formal economy.

Ages ago, a group of property owners came together to share the costs of providing water and sewerage to their property, and they called this co-operation of theirs a municipality. When the socialists who do not own property have the political power to interfere with this co-operation of property owners the municipality will regress to where individuals will be forced to provide their own services once again. The faction fighting and plunder objectives inherent to the socialist regime will destroy hundreds of years of successful voluntary cooperation in service delivery.

The solution is simple. The court should simply uphold the law to protect property rights. The municipal rates and taxes cannot be abused as an instrument of redistribution and plunder. The rates and taxes are the property of the homeowners and the court should protect this right.

The current regime cannot stop the rot and decay because this is the results of their policies. The destruction of economic activity and the decay of the social fabric is inherent to socialism. Only the restoration of property rights can turn this ship away from the iceberg. Only property owners should have the right to vote.

When people who do not own property have the right to determine policy, then the environment will reflect that reality. They will change a modern municipality into a wasteland without services that resemble the rural traditional lands. They will shape their environment to reflect their mindset.

The only way to enforce property right is ensure everyone has the means to acquire property. For as long as we live in a world of the Haves and Haves Not, the assault on property rights, rule of law and collectivism destruction will continue…

A Universal Basic Income and removal of all “Free” Products and Service will ensure that everyone has the means to acquire property, then they become a shareholder with skin in the game and not only act responsibility but also behave in way were their value and contribution to society will grow.

I have experienced and tested my young child with this concept and the results are outstanding.

The child was given what he desired when he desire just to shut him up.
The tantrums become more regular, needs became neediness and as parent we would become angry with resentment sinking in.

The following month we gave some plastic discs which represent money, every week he would be given 10 discs. Their was a Rewards and Purchase List, complete a task and he would be given more, desire something and pay for it and display inappropriate behaviour then pay the price.

What we have witnessed is the transformation form a child mentality to a young adult. he can go to a toy section of a shop and view with interest which product most like will satisfy his needs whilst being in his affordability. He now sets a fortnightly goal of getting his most expensive need satisfied and completes many tasks like making his bed and preparing breakfast for himself.

Bottom Line:
Give something for free, then the mentality of Entitlement will take hold of its host, tantrum become the norm and there is no desire to achieve anything meaningful.
Ensure that they have the means to attain their desires, a proudful conscience develops with the thirst to do more and achieve.

You forgot the word “grant” after universal income. To hand out all this free money which will miraculously cause people not to want anything more than that for free, a group will have to kill themselves making enough money for the taxes to pay it. Will not be me.

@Purgecoin “A Universal Basic Income and removal of all “Free” Products and Service will ensure that everyone has the means to acquire property”

Huh ?

You’re advocating socialism.

It never works – give anyone anything for free and it will never have the same value as someone who worked for it.

Period.

@Realitybites,

I am not an advocate of Socialism nor do i believe that any of the policies within Socialism are to the benefit of anyone. I strongly believe that all members of society should contribute a fair share of their efforts to not only uphold the current environment but also to improve it.

UBI can been see in the context of a Monopoly Game,
All the players start of with the same amount any ever time they go around the board the Collect 200 credits, this gives them the ability to continue the game and through their own skill and part luck to can gain more credits.

UBI is by no means the only solution but one of mean that need to be put into policy so that society as a whole can benefit.
Debt Restructuring, Debt Prohibition, Sound Monetary System, Anti Political Governance System together with UBI can bring harmony to everyone lives.

Say what ?

So ‘Purgecoin’, just where exactly will funding for this oh so magically utopian ‘UBI’ be taken from ?

@Realitybites

One of the first places the money would come from is the 30% Goverment spends on Free Social Services and Support Programs, 40% of the money would come from the Transactional Tax and with the balance coming from reducing support to inefficient State Owned Enterprises.

UBI is more free market than what you may think. Public services like hospitals will be funded not by Goverment but by the people who use them, Goverment schools would become private schools.

So basically the Goverment would only be responsible for creating an environment where society can grow and law and order is maintained, private companies would create the jobs because there would be freedom of competition.

The live transactional tax would ensure that state coffers are refilled as and when transactions take place.

Banning bank credit takes things to a responsible level that no body can receive more loan value than what they have avaible as collateral.

Lastly why would anyone commit crime like theft if they were to get a guaranteed some of money every month?
Woman and particularly those who are vulnerable in society would have a means to get out of their abusive situations.

@Purgecoin

You chasing your own tail.

Read your first paragraph properly, then try tell us again: where do you think most of that money comes from ??????

Here’s a hint that might help you:

Already overburdened T….x….p…a…y….r !!

Here’s a comment that might also red pill you :

“The problem with socialism is that you soon run out of other people’s money”

@Purgecoin: In Monopoly that money is not a UBI, it’s called a SALARY!! Theory being, you’ve earned it.
Arbitrary thought: Maybe playing a few rounds of monopoly should become part of the Maths Literacy or Life Skills school curriculum.

There seems to be confusion about the purpose of entities such as SOE’s, municipalities and state departments (not only within the ANC, but also the population at large). Currently it is seen as entities that supplies a job/income to the connected, whereas it should be seen as an entity that is supposed to deliver an outcome – generate electricity, supply water, issue licenses, etc. (In the private sector you are NEVER allowed to forget your purpose as an entity. The consumer will penalize you severely if you do.) Even if the ANC is replaced today, people still think incorrectly, so nothing will change. We have decided to take the short cut to riches. Those already on the boat, won’t get off willingly. The rest will rather wait to get a hand onto the boat, than do something that will legitimately earn a seat on the boat. As a country we have created the monster that is slowly devouring us, but we just don’t have the cerebral capacity to realize that we are what is wrong with the country. Most of this wayward thinking can be attributed to the perversion of empowerment that took place.

The SOE project was only ever meant to make money for the State. Read the preamble to the RTMC Act, for instance, especially its second-last paragraph.

It is a thinly-veiled way of hiking taxes by spinning off government services into the private sector, freeing up the tax that used to fund them for other things, and charging “customers” for the “new” “service”. E-tolls is the index case in this regard, but there are many others.

The problem is that the whole idea is total baloney. Government exists to handle the stuff which is of national importance and monopolistic by nature. (How many competing weather radar networks or national roads or aviation regulators does one need? We can stop counting at 1.) Give a monopoly to a civil servant to run on a strict budget and all will be well. Roads, harbours, dams, road safety, weather forecasting, national standards, and aviation regulation ran without a glitch for almost a century on that exact basis.

But give a monopoly to a businessperson and it will spiral into decay forthwith as the lack of competition enables price-gouging, inefficiency, corruption and short-cutting. It is the ultimate in unfettered capitalism. Then go one step further and give it to an ANC cadre who has never started and run a business from scratch in their lives, and have the State secure its debt so it can never go bankrupt, and…well…basically every SOE ends up being a case study in failure.

Very well said, RHJ – you absolutely nailed it!

ANC = Another New Crater (in the road)

Courtesy from the same looting organisation (run & supported by thugs) known for its (A)bsolutely (N)o (C)urrent meme.

How does this sound :
I just came from my hairdresser and paid him in full for a haircut and coloring I did not receive ….

Bill Clinton sends you a thumbs up.

Please Moneyweb readers, be very-very careful, whilst driving at night if you see two “eyes” reflecting at you slow down immediately, it could be a giraffe standing in a pothole!

Might as well add Joburg to the list.

Point of no return for SA? Stripped and looted.

It’s a pointless and self-defeating exercise to play by the rules, when dysfunctional Municipal officials can just ignore them – and so-called “successful” court orders – with brazen impunity.

When Municipal officials treat the ratepayers with such disdain – and outright insolence – then going “the legal route” has reached the end of its limited utility.

The only thing that works after that point of legal despair is reached, is ACTUAL physical militancy – where the body of ratepayers take physical control of their assets, and literally remove insolent incumbents from their offices.

THAT is the real significance of what happened in Kgetlengrivier.

The judge wisely (and bravely) acknowledged the de facto reality, and sided with the ratepayers.

But let’s be very clear what mechanism is actually the game-changer here.

It’s NOT the judgement.

It’s the UNCOMPROMISING “take-charge-no-matter-what-the-legal-consequences” MILITANCY of the ratepayer activists that forced this change.

That has to be the take-away lesson here for other ratepayers elsewhere.

How interesting that the media is starting to use ‘comrades’ non-ironically to mean “parasitic incompetents with the right ANC connections”.

We should all take ownership of this outdated Stalinist form of address so favoured by the ANC, and make sure it is repurposed to ONLY mean the usage I refer to above.

Well, this tax payer is revolting because … the ANC is revolting

if you have young children,my advice is, plan for an exit strategy/’life’ insurance policy now, in the event things go beyond the point of no return.Best to do this soonest since go-to countries are constantly raising the admittance bar.If SA miraculously does a 180, then at least young families will have two options!

And you think things are that much better outside of South Africa?

All countries have their own unique problems.

I will never forget an example my father shared with me,
in 1970 one family ran off to the USA then their sons were sent to the Vietnam war …

It is easier to make a living in South Africa than the first world.

You are treated like a third or tenth class citizen if you are not economically very well off in the first world.

Being a 10th class citizen is still infinitely better than being told you have no right to be in a country where you can trace back your ancestry for nearly 400 years and where the state uses all of its might to oppress and disenfranchise you.

Yes, there are plenty of countries which have functioning municipalities.

The best solution is to be off grid in a collapsed municipality. YOu provide everything yourself, you never get a bill from the muni and life is good. I am in a next door municipality to Ktlengrivier.

I was exercising my constitutional right to freedom of expression and
moneyweb blocked my earlier post.

Hey MarxistWeb……just way too much truth in my comment below to be allowed in the public domain ???

If you need to censor, then the only loser here is the truth.

Already your reputation precedes you, and many members already complaining while your credibility slowly dwindles.

@JBlack who wrote” How What really changed for the majority? Now they have freedom of movement, a grant and are poor. So it’s probably a better outcome.”

Actually, not so.

Put all emotion aside and lets look at this dispassionately:

* Majority had freedom of movement pre ‘94 – all that was required was a
pass, which prevented illegal immigrants and secured jobs for locals.

Also kept crime low.

* The economy was way better, and just about everybody had jobs

Speak to any elder from the majority, and they will admit life was better pre-94

* Pre-94 the majority had better hospitals, better schools and more jobs.

Period.

And post ‘94 ?

Well , now EVERYONE is poorer, with less access to hospitals/schools etc, while crime and corruption are at all time highs.

Welcome to paradise, where everyone is the same now.

Say what ?

So ‘Purgecoin’, just where exactly will funding for this oh so magical utopian ‘UBI’ be taken from ?

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